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		<title>By: Less or fewer? &#171; Sentence first</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2346</link>
		<dc:creator>Less or fewer? &#171; Sentence first</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you remain unconvinced: Bill Walsh, Motivated Grammar, Language Log, Bradshaw of the Future and Arrant Pedantry and have written very interesting posts about the less-fewer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2310</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! This is indeed one of those issues that has been beaten to death, and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s received much better treatment elsewhere, but I figured one more beating probably couldn&#039;t do too much damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! This is indeed one of those issues that has been beaten to death, and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s received much better treatment elsewhere, but I figured one more beating probably couldn&#8217;t do too much damage.</p>
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		<title>By: mighty red pen</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2309</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty red pen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh ... I&#039;ve blogged about this, too, but if there is one rule I never care to see again it&#039;s the less/fewer rule--it seems that it&#039;s one of these ones that peevologists rather simplistically invoke. For example, it seems as though everyone has a beef with &quot;10 items or less&quot; signs at the supermarket. Okay, we get it!

I like this comment you made: &quot;People will find any excuse they can to discriminate against others, and language provides an easy way to distinguish those in the know from everyone else.&quot; It sums up nicely another peeve I have lately about strident &quot;grammar nazis,&quot; which is the way in which they tend to divide the world into &quot;stupid people who don&#039;t know grammar&quot; versus &quot;smart people who do.&quot; It&#039;s just not that simple, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh &#8230; I&#8217;ve blogged about this, too, but if there is one rule I never care to see again it&#8217;s the less/fewer rule&#8211;it seems that it&#8217;s one of these ones that peevologists rather simplistically invoke. For example, it seems as though everyone has a beef with &#8220;10 items or less&#8221; signs at the supermarket. Okay, we get it!</p>
<p>I like this comment you made: &#8220;People will find any excuse they can to discriminate against others, and language provides an easy way to distinguish those in the know from everyone else.&#8221; It sums up nicely another peeve I have lately about strident &#8220;grammar nazis,&#8221; which is the way in which they tend to divide the world into &#8220;stupid people who don&#8217;t know grammar&#8221; versus &#8220;smart people who do.&#8221; It&#8217;s just not that simple, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro Writing Tips &#187; Less and fewer</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2252</link>
		<dc:creator>Pro Writing Tips &#187; Less and fewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if you&#8217;re interested in the history of the rule, check out Arrant Pedantry&#8217;s post on the history of less and fewer.   Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2221</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the slow response; I&#039;ve been out of town.

I agree that they&#039;re needless, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that they don&#039;t provide any information; they simply provide information that&#039;s already provided elsewhere. This sort of redundancy is harmless and may possibly be helpful if it helps a reader or listener anticipate what you&#039;re going to say next. But any benefit is probably measured in milliseconds, so I&#039;d say it&#039;s a waste of time and effort to invent rules and then try to get everyone to follow them.

Strictly speaking, we don&#039;t need rules like this, but I think that, to some extent, they&#039;re inevitable. People will find any excuse they can to discriminate against others, and language provides an easy way to distinguish those in the know from everyone else. I think the only thing that can be done about it is to change the way we teach language in school, but that&#039;s much easier said than done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the slow response; I&#8217;ve been out of town.</p>
<p>I agree that they&#8217;re needless, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that they don&#8217;t provide any information; they simply provide information that&#8217;s already provided elsewhere. This sort of redundancy is harmless and may possibly be helpful if it helps a reader or listener anticipate what you&#8217;re going to say next. But any benefit is probably measured in milliseconds, so I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a waste of time and effort to invent rules and then try to get everyone to follow them.</p>
<p>Strictly speaking, we don&#8217;t need rules like this, but I think that, to some extent, they&#8217;re inevitable. People will find any excuse they can to discriminate against others, and language provides an easy way to distinguish those in the know from everyone else. I think the only thing that can be done about it is to change the way we teach language in school, but that&#8217;s much easier said than done.</p>
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		<title>By: John Roach</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>John Roach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny: I have rules for all of your aberrations in third paragraph. I won&#039;t bother sharing them, as that would be beside the point, but there is no inconsistency in my mind.

On a related topic, the less/fewer distinction, along with who/whom and other similar rules, strike me as needless — they don&#039;t provide any information.  They&#039;re strictly niceties.  In my mind, they will change soon rather than later, and English will be the better for it.

I&#039;d like to hear your opinion (or a link) on this.  Do we need grammar rules that serve little purpose other than giving people a reason to criticize us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny: I have rules for all of your aberrations in third paragraph. I won&#8217;t bother sharing them, as that would be beside the point, but there is no inconsistency in my mind.</p>
<p>On a related topic, the less/fewer distinction, along with who/whom and other similar rules, strike me as needless — they don&#8217;t provide any information.  They&#8217;re strictly niceties.  In my mind, they will change soon rather than later, and English will be the better for it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear your opinion (or a link) on this.  Do we need grammar rules that serve little purpose other than giving people a reason to criticize us?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thank you. I guess I should&#039;ve proofread that first.</description>
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		<title>By: Bobo Linq</title>
		<link>http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2008/12/23/less-and-fewer/comment-page-1/#comment-2184</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobo Linq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The that not everybody follows&quot; should be &quot;The fact that not everybody follows&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The that not everybody follows&#8221; should be &#8220;The fact that not everybody follows&#8221;</p>
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